Released: March 2, 2016

Featuring: Mystikal SameOldShawn

Songwriter: Mystikal Kevin Gates

Producer: Jknyc

SameOldShawn: I was listening to "Back From the River" the other day.

Mystikal: Holy shit!

SOS: Can we talk about that on camera?

Mystikal: Damn right we can.

SOS: Okay. So can you go into that -- the whole "Drag Em 'N' Tha River"/"Back From the River" kind of thing?

M: I actually started it.

SOS: You started it?

M: I kinda started it. Unintentionally and...I didn't really give a fuck. Cause at that point in my career, I was battling against what we call bounce music in New Orleans. When I was first coming out, I considered myself hip-hop coming from New Orleans, and all the New Orleans audience wanted to hear was bounce. So I was trying to compete with the fucking bounce market.

And so I had a lyric that said, "One, never gonna change my style/Two, never gonna bounce, never gonna bow." That was a stab at bounce music, bounce artists. I didn't give a fuck. And UNLV didn't take too well to that shit.

SOS: So they did "Drag Em N the River."

M: So I'm just riding down the street the next day, and I heard, "Oh, he wants some/Ain't that cold." Beat knocking -- Mannie Fresh got that shit bumping! Then I hear, "Mystikal, you a hoe." What? Hold on, motherfucker! That's where that started. And that was a real fun rivalry, man

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